Robin Le Poidevin, British professor of metaphysics, 1962-
“...Even if we are right to be sceptical of the suggestion that religious experiences provide evidence for the existence of God, however, we should take a critical look at the reasons given for dismissing such experiences as illusory:
“1. Not everyone has them.
“Part of the suspicion directed at reports of religious experiences arises from the fact that such experiences are far from universal...
“2. There is no sense organ for perceiving God.
“...We perceive things because they impinge on our sense organs... How, then, do we perceive [God]? Presumably through some other organ– but no such organ (that we have been able to discover) exists...
“3. We can artificially induce ‘religious’ experiences by stimulating the temporal lobes of the brain.
“In the 1980s, American neuroscientist Michael Persinger was conducting experiments into the effect of magnetic fields on the brain, especially the temporal lobes. The apparatus he developed has come to be known, perhaps somewhat facetiously, as the ‘God helmet.’... Many of those who wore the helmet reported strange sensations, often of another presence in the room with them, and in some cases, the presence was felt to be God...
“4. We have an inbuilt tendency to interpret things as the result of agency.“This is the so-called ‘hyperactive agency-detection device.’... Could religious experiences, and religious belief in general, just be the over-enthusiastic promptings of the agency-detection device?...
“5. Religious experiences do not appear to be the source of completely new ideas or concepts to those who have them; they are just interpreted in the light of beliefs already held or entertained.
“Each one of these objections to using reports of religious experience to support the God hypothesis should make us cautious of accepting those reports at face value. But we can’t take them as completely discrediting those reports unless we are prepared to entertain an uncomfortable degree of scepticism about our non-religious beliefs.”
— Robin Le Poidevin, Agnosticism: A Very Short Introduction, Oxford University Press, 2020 p69-71
Abhijit Naskar, Indian neuroscientist, 1991-
“Pathology can indeed evoke experiences of Absolute Godliness, but not all God experiences are caused by pathology. They can also occur due to disturbance in the geomagnetic field of our planet, consumption of psychedelics, excruciatingly extreme level of stress during a near-death situation, or ultimately through a natural and healthy procedure of meditation or/and prayer.”
― Abhijit Naskar, Love, God & Neurons, Neuro Cookies, 2017
Robert Ingersoll, American lawyer & orator, 1833-1899
“One of the corner-stones of Christianity is the miracle of inspiration, and this same miracle lies at the foundation of all religions. How can the fact of inspiration be established? How could even the inspired man know that he was inspired? If he was influenced to write, and did write, and did express thoughts and facts that to him were absolutely new, on subjects about which he had previously known nothing, how could he know that he had been influenced by an infinite being? And if he could known how could he convince others?
“What is meant by inspiration? Did the one inspired set down only the thoughts of a supernatural being? Was he simply an instrument, or did his personality color the message received and given? Did he mix his ignorance with the divine information, his prejudices and hatreds with the love and justice of the Deity? If God told him not to eat the flesh of any beast that dieth of itself, did the same infinite being also tell him to sell this meat to the stranger within his gates?
“A man says that he is inspired–that God appeared to him in a dream, and told him certain things. Now, the things said to have been communicated may have been good and wise; but will the fact that the communication is good or wise establish the inspiration? If, on the other hand, the communication is absurd or wicked, will that conclusively show that the man was not inspired? Must we judge from the communication? In other words, is our reason to be the final standard?
“How could the inspired man know that the communication was received from God? If God in reality should appear to a human being, how could this human being know who had appeared? By what standard would he judge? Upon this question man has no experience; he is not familiar enough with the supernatural to know gods even if they exist. Although thousands have pretended to receive messages, there has been no message in which there was, or is, anything above the invention of man. There are just as wonderful things in the uninspired as in the inspired books, and the prophecies of the heathen have been fulfilled equally with those of the Judean prophets. If, then, even the inspired man cannot certainly know that he is inspired, how is it possible for him to demonstrate his inspiration to others? The last solution of this question is that inspiration is a miracle about which only the inspired can have the least knowledge, or the least evidence, and this knowledge and this evidence not of a character to absolutely convince even the inspired.”
— Robert Green Ingersoll, Why Am I an Agnostic, 1900 (Anodos Books edition, 2019, p28-30)
Thomas Paine, English philosopher, political theorist,& revolutionary, 1737-1809
“A thing which everybody is required to believe requires that the proof and evidence of it should be equal to all, and universal.”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) p54
“That which is now called natural philosophy, embracing the whole circle of science, of which astronomy occupies the chief place, is the study of the works of God, and of the power and wisdom of God in his works, and is the true theology.
“As to the theology that is now studied in its place, it is the study of human opinions and of human fancies concerning God. It is not the study of God himself in the works that he has made, but in the works or writings that man has made...”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) p73
“Every national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet, as if the way to God was not open to every man alike.
“Each of those churches show certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses, face to face; the Christians say their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.
“As it is necessary to affix right ideas to words, I will, before I proceed further into the subject, offer some observations on the word revelation. Revelation, when applied to religion, means something communicated immediately from God to man.
“No one will deny or dispute the power of the Almighty to make such a communication, if He pleases. But admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be a revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and consequently they are not obliged to believe it.
“It is a contradiction in terms and ideas, to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second-hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication–after this it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner; for it was not a revelation made to me, and I have only his word for it that it was made to him. When Moses told the children of Israel that he received the two tables of the commandments from the hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him, because they had no other authority for it than his telling them so; and I have no other authority for it than some historian telling me so. The commandments carry no internal evidence of divinity with them...”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) p51-52
“But it is with Prophecy as it is with Miracle. It could not answer the purpose even if it were real. Those to whom a prophecy should be told could not tell whether the man prophesied or lied, or whether it had been revealed to him, or whether he conceited it; and if the thing that he prophesied, or pretended to prophesy, should happen, or some thing like it, among the multitude of things that are daily happening, nobody could again know whether he foreknew it, or guessed at it, or whether it was accidental. A prophet, therefore, is a character useless and unnecessary; and the safe side of the case is to guard against being imposed upon, by not giving credit to such relations.
“Upon the whole, Mystery, Miracle, and Prophecy, are appendages that belong to fabulous and not to true religion. They are the means by which so many Lo heres! and Lo theres! have been spread about the world, and religion been made into a trade. The success of one impostor gave encouragement to another, and the quieting salvo of doing some good by keeping up a pious fraud protected them from remorse.”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) p97
“But some perhaps will say—Are we to have no word of God—no revelation? I answer yes. There is a Word of God; there is a revelation.
“THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man.
“Human language is local and changeable, and is therefore incapable of being used as he means of unchangeable and universal information. The idea that God sent Jesus Christ to publish, as they say, the glad tidings to all nations, from one end of the earth unto the other, is consistent only with the ignorance of those who know nothing of the extent of the world, and who believed, as those world-saviors believed, and continued to believe for several centuries, (and that in contradiction to the discoveries of philosophers and the experience of navigators,) that the earth was flat like a trencher; and that a man might walk to the end of it.
“But how was Jesus Christ to make anything known to all nations? He could speak but one language, which was Hebrew; and there are in the world several hundred languages. Scarcely any two nations speak the same language, or understand each other; and as to translations, every man who knows anything of languages, knows that it is impossible to translate from one language into another, not only without losing a great part of the original, but frequently of mistaking the sense; and besides all this, the art of printing was wholly unknow at the time Christ lived.
“It is always necessary that the means that are to accomplish any end be equal to the accomplishment of that end, or the end cannot be accomplished. It is in this that the difference between finite and infinite power and wisdom discovers itself. Man frequently fails in accomplishing his end, from a natural inability of the power to the purpose; and frequently from the want of wisdom to apply power properly. But it is impossible for infinite power and wisdom to fail as man faileth. The means it useth are always equal to the end: but human language, more especially as there is not an universal language, is incapable of being used as an universal means of unchangeable and uniform information; and therefore it is not the means that God useth in manifesting himself universally to man.
“It is only in the CREATION that all our ideas and conceptions of a word of God can unite. The Creation speaketh an universal language, independently of human speech or human language, multiplied and various as they be. It is an ever-existing original, which every man can read. It cannot be forged; it cannot be counterfeited; it cannot be lost; it cannot be altered; it cannot be suppressed. It does not depend upon the will of man whether it shall be published or not; it publishes itself from one end of the earth to the other. It preaches to all nations and to all worlds; and this word of God reveals to man all that is necessary for man to know of God.
“Do we want to contemplate his power? We see it in the immensity of the creation. Do we want to contemplate his wisdom? We see it in the unchangeable order by which the incomprehensible Whole is governed. Do we want to contemplate his munificence? We see it in the abundance with which he fills the earth. Do we want to contemplate his mercy? We see it in his not withholding that abundance even from the unthankful. In fine, do we want to know what God is? Search not the book called the scripture, which any human hand might make, but the scripture called the Creation.”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) pp68-70
“That which man has done or seen, needs no revelation to tell him he has done it, or seen it, for he knows it already...
“Revelation then, so far as the term has relation between God and man, can only be applied to something which God reveals of his will to man; but though the power of the Almighty to make such a communication is necessarily admitted, because to that power all things are possible, yet, the thing so revealed (if anything ever was revealed, and which, by the bye, it is impossible to prove) is revelation to the person only to whom it is made. His account of it to another is not revelation; and whoever puts faith in that account, puts it in the man from whom the account comes; and that man may have been deceived, or may have dreamed it; or he may be an impostor and may lie. There is no possible criterion whereby to judge of the truth of what he tells; for even the morality of it would be no proof of revelation. In all such cases, the proper answer should be, ‘When it is revealed to me, I will believe it to be revelation; but it is not and cannot be incumbent upon me to believe it to be revelation before; neither is it proper that I should take the word of man as the word of God, and put man in the place of God.’”
— Thomas Paine, Age of Reason, Citadel Press, New York, 1988 (1794) p181
Richard Dawkins, PhD, British evolutionary biologist, 1941-
“Many people believe in God because they believe they have seen a vision of him – or of an angel or a virgin in blue – with their own eyes. Or he speaks to them inside their heads. This argument from personal experience is the one that is most convincing to those who claim to have had one. But it is the least convincing to anyone else, and anyone knowledgeable about psychology.
“You say you have experienced God directly? Well, some people have experienced a pink elephant, but that probably doesn’t impress you. Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, distinctly heard the voice of Jesus telling him to kill women, and he was locked up for life. George W. Bush says that God told him to invade Iraq (a pity God didn’t vouchsafe him a revelation that there were no weapons of mass destruction). Individuals in asylums think they are Napoleon or Charlie Chaplin, or that the entire world is conspiring against them, or that they can broadcast their thoughts into other people’s heads. We humour them but don’t take their internally revealed beliefs seriously, mostly because not many people share them. Religious experiences are different only in that the people who claim them are numerous...
“The human brain runs first-class simulation software. Our eyes don’t present to our brains a faithful photograph of what is out there, or an accurate movie of what is going on through time. Our brains construct a continuously updated model: updated by coded pulses chattering along the optic nerve, but constructed nevertheless. Optical illusions are vivid reminders of this. A major class of illusions, of which the Necker Cube is an example, arise because the sense data that the brain receives are compatible with two alternative models of reality. The brain, having no basis for choosing between them, alternates, and we experience a series of flips from one internal model to the other. The picture we are looking at appears, almost literally, to flip over and become something else.
“The simulation software in the brain is especially adept at constructing faces and voices...
“...It is well capable of constructing ‘visions’ and ‘visitations’ of the utmost veridical power. To simulate a ghost or an angel or a Virgin Mary would be child’s play to software of this sophistication. And the same thing works for hearing. When we hear a sound, it is not faithfully transported up the auditory nerve and relayed to the brain as if by a high-fidelity Bang & Olufsen. As with vision, the brain constructs a sound model, based upon continuously updated auditory nerve data...
“Once, as a child, I heard a ghost: a male voice murmuring, as if in recitation or prayer. I could almost, but not quite, make out the words, which seemed to have a serious, solemn timbre. I had been told stories of priest holes in ancient houses, and I was a little frightened. But I got out of bed and crept up on the source of the sound. As I got closer, it grew louder, and then suddenly it ‘flipped’ inside my head. I was now close enough to discern what it really was. The wind, gusting through the keyhole, was creating sounds which the simulation software in my brain had used to construct a model of male speech, solemnly intoned. Had I been a more impressionable child, it is possible that I would have ‘heard’ not just unintelligible speech but particular words and even sentences. And had I been both impressionable and religiously brought up, I wonder what words the wind might have spoken.”
— Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion, Mariner Books, 2008 p113-116
Alan Watts, English philosopher, 1915-1973
“Now you may say I need some help in this process [of self-improvement], and therefore I am going to find someone else to help me. It may be a therapist. It may be a clergyman, it may be a guru. It may be any kind of person who teaches a technique of self-improvement. Now how will you know whether this person is able to teach you. How can you judge, for example, whether a psychotherapist is effective or just a charlatan? How can you judge whether a guru is himself spiritually wise or merely a good chatterbox? Well of course, you ask your friends, you ask of his other students or patients and they’re all of course enthusiastic. You have to be enthusiastic when you bought something expensive. If you bought an automobile which turned out to be a lemon it’s very difficult to admit that it was a lemon that you were fooled and it’s the same when you buy a religion or an expensive operation. But what people do not sufficiently realize is that when you pick an authority, whether it’s a psychotherapeutic one or a religious one. You chose it. In other words, that this fellow, or this book, or this system is the right one is your opinion. And how are you competent to judge? After all, if you’re saying to this other person or other source, I think you are the authority, that’s your opinion. So you cannot really judge whether an austerity is a sound off already unless you yourself are a sound off already. Otherwise you may just be being fooled.”
— Alan Watts, ‘
Mind over Mind - Part 2,’ (lectures compiled in 1972), The Alan Watts Organization
Sam Harris, PhD, American philosopher & neuroscientist, 1967-
“No myths need be embraced for us to commune with the profundity of our circumstance. No personal God need be worshiped for us to live in awe at the beauty and immensity of creation.”
— Sam Harris, The End of Faith, W.W. Norton Company, New York, 2004 p227
Kai Nielsen, American Professor of Philosophy, 1926-2021
“Religious experience doesn’t enable you to detect God. It is, of course, perfectly true that people have religious experiences, including mystical experiences. But that is a different matter. That is a matter of having certain feelings. Moreover, Buddhists have such experiences, but Buddhists don’t claim to see God but Christians and Sufis do. It depends upon what religious framework you start with. Religious experience is a matter of feelings, and feelings are not a way of cognition. But even if a religious experience were a form of cognition, it is so variously interpreted from religious tradition to religious tradition that there is no good reason to believe it yields a direct knowledge of God.”
— Kai Nielsen, Does God Exist?, Prometheus Books, 1988 p65
“Well, there is a historicity of Mohammed too. There is a historicity of Buddha. I return to the fact that there are many, many religions, many, many putative revelations. Don’t say they say the same thing. They don’t. Any being that could be Christ–could be both man and God–for a Jew couldn’t be God. No man, on his conception of things, could be God. That would be idolatry. That is not the sort of thing that God could be. And for the lesser vehicle in Buddhism, which is as old a religion as Christianity, there is neither worship nor God. So I want to say, ‘Why Christianity rather than Buddhism?’ ‘Why Christianity rather than Hinduism?’ They have their claimed revelations too. How do you decide that a claimed revelation is a genuine revelation? And if we use reason, including empirical research to judge revelation, why then do we need revelation?”
— Kai Nielsen, Does God Exist?, Prometheus Books, 1988 p71-72
“There is the crucial argument about religious experience. What I think is undeniable is that there are religious experiences. Professor [J.P.] Moreland said, I think rightly, that I begged the question to say that they are all of the nature of feelings. It did seem to me when Otto described them, they sounded like feelings. But suppose we say no, they are numinous experiences? They are a form of non-sensory perception that we have. And maybe there is such a thing... Maybe there is some kind of nonsensory or a special sensory direct awareness. But all that to the contrary notwithstanding, one of the things I would argue is there couldn’t be a nonsensory awareness of an infinite eternal God transcendent to the universe. [J.P.] Moreland says that in Christianity God was immanent. That’s one of the paradoxes of Christianity. How could God be both transcendent and immanent?...
“So I still want to say that those people[,] who try to argue that there is a direct awareness of God that gives you a kind of certainty that no philosophical argument can ever give[,] are mistaken. But there is no reason not to think that there are religious experiences, but there’s no good reason to think they are experiences of God. If you use the causal argument to say, ‘I know from experience; I had these experiences and that leads me to postulate God,’ that is not a direct awareness of God. That is to argue for certain experiences and try your best to explain them by postulating God. There are, however, alternative ways of explaining those same experiences, including some purely secular ways. It’s terribly unclear which of those ways are the best at explaining the phenomena.”
— Kai Nielsen, Does God Exist?, Prometheus Books, 1988 p70-71
“[C.B. Martin & Ronald Hepburn] both argued, soundly, I believe, that [self-authenticating religious experience] yields no knowledge of God... I don’t deny that there are religious experiences and they’re humanly very important. Rudolph Otto was very good at describing the sort of circumstances that generate and sustain religious feelings. They are very real indeed, but they in no way are a ground for religious belief. They do not afford a special experience that gives us a knowledge of God. They are very fundamental religious experiences. People like Ninian Smart have argued they’re quite various from culture to culture... Nobody denies that; it’s a question of how to interpret it.
“So there are two points. It’s supposed to be an experience of God. I’m saying that can’t be if God is in infinite individual transcendent to the universe. Because just think about what you mean by that term, and it should be evident to you that you just could not experience directly such a being. To go back to the anthropomorphic thing, you could only experience an anthropomorphic being. And that’s religiously inadequate, for it is not the infinite transcendent reality of the tradition.
“Suppose one says, ‘Look, look, look. I don’t understand your fancy philosophic arguments. Maybe they’re good; maybe they’re bad. But I’ve experienced God, and I know it in a self-authenticating way.’ But Martin argued powerfully that the only models we have for self-authenticating experiences are things like headaches or sensations–that is, purely psychological realities. Suppose I say to you, ‘I’ve got a headache.’ That’s what Wittgenstein called a first person, present tense avowal. Suppose you say, ‘No, you don’t have a headache.’ Well, I have a kind of authority here on what I avow...
“Those are all very private experiences which, though they are intentional and thus have intentional objects, are not experiences of some strange ontological realm. They are just psychological experiences, and they can’t be used as a model for saying you have a self-authenticating experience of God. That is a more public claim, and then you are faced with the counter that it doesn’t make sense to say such non-purely psychological experiences are self-authenticating...”
— Kai Nielsen, Does God Exist?, Prometheus Books, 1988 p83-85
Sir Alfred Jules "Freddie" Ayer (A.J. Ayer), English philosopher & humanist, 1910-1989
“These considerations dispose of the argument from religious experience, which many philosophers still regard as a valid argument in favour of the existence of a god. They say that it is logically possible for men to be immediately acquainted with God, as they are immediately acquainted with a sense-content, and that there is no reason why one should be prepared to believe a man when he says that he is seeing a yellow patch, and refuse to believe him [when] he says that he is seeing God. The answer to this is that if the man who asserts that he is seeing God is merely asserting that he is experiencing a peculiar kind of sense-content, then we do not for a moment deny that his assertion may be true. But, ordinarily, the man who says that he is seeing God is saying not merely that he is experiencing a religious emotion, but also that there exists a transcendent being who is the object of his emotion; just as the man who says that he sees a yellow patch is ordinarily saying not merely that his visual sense-field contains a yellow object to which the sense-content belongs. And it is not irrational to be prepared to believe a man when he asserts the existence of a yellow object, and to refuse to believe him when he asserts the existence of a transcendent god. For whereas the sentence ‘There exists here a yellow-coloured material thing’ expresses a genuine synthetic proposition which could be empirically verified, the sentence ’There exists a transcendent god’ has, as we have seen, no literal significance.
“We conclude therefore, that the argument from religious experience is altogether fallacious. The fact that people have religious experiences is interesting from the psychological point of view, but it does not in any way imply that there is such a thing as religious knowledge, any more than our having moral experiences implies that there is such a thing as moral knowledge. The theist, like the moralist, may believe that his experiences are cognitive experiences, but, unless he can formulate his ‘knowledge’ in propositions that are empirically verifiable, we may be sure that he is deceiving himself. It follows that those philosophers who fill their books with assertions that they intuitively ‘know’ this or that moral or religious ‘truth’ are merely providing material for the psychoanalyst. For no act of intuition can be said to reveal a truth about any matter of fact unless it issues in verifiable propositions. And all such propositions are to be incorporated in the system of empirical propositions which constitutes science.”
— A.J. Ayer, Language, Truth and Logic, Penguin Books, 1936 p157-158